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		By: Michael		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Michael]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Dec 2017 15:12:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;http://tonyconniff.com/at-what-point-does-it-become-a-co-write/#comment-7334&quot;&gt;Tony Conniff&lt;/a&gt;.

Depends. The way I view it, if one party provides a chord progression and a second party writes a melody, they are co-writers. If a song is written and, during performance, a musician suggests an F instead of a C, that’s not a co-write. But, you are correct: context, interpretation and negotiation]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="http://tonyconniff.com/at-what-point-does-it-become-a-co-write/#comment-7334">Tony Conniff</a>.</p>
<p>Depends. The way I view it, if one party provides a chord progression and a second party writes a melody, they are co-writers. If a song is written and, during performance, a musician suggests an F instead of a C, that’s not a co-write. But, you are correct: context, interpretation and negotiation</p>
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		By: Tony Conniff		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Dec 2017 05:08:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;http://tonyconniff.com/at-what-point-does-it-become-a-co-write/#comment-7332&quot;&gt;Michael&lt;/a&gt;.

Michael,
That&#039;s one way to do it  - the traditional way, where melody and words are what constitutes a song. I think that&#039;s an anachronism at this point; it just doesn&#039;t reflect how many songs are actually written. As I said about the situations described in the post, if you contribute to the song, it ultimately comes down to whether you can negotiate an &#039;upgrade&#039; or &#039;add-on&#039; from writer or producer to songwriter.
One other thing... You mentioned you go by &#039;words and music&#039;. Then you say a chord change doesn&#039;t count. But isn&#039;t a chord &#039;music&#039;? Or do you really mean &#039;words and melody&#039;?
Thanks a lot for reading and writing!
Best wishes,
Tony]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="http://tonyconniff.com/at-what-point-does-it-become-a-co-write/#comment-7332">Michael</a>.</p>
<p>Michael,<br />
That&#8217;s one way to do it  &#8211; the traditional way, where melody and words are what constitutes a song. I think that&#8217;s an anachronism at this point; it just doesn&#8217;t reflect how many songs are actually written. As I said about the situations described in the post, if you contribute to the song, it ultimately comes down to whether you can negotiate an &#8216;upgrade&#8217; or &#8216;add-on&#8217; from writer or producer to songwriter.<br />
One other thing&#8230; You mentioned you go by &#8216;words and music&#8217;. Then you say a chord change doesn&#8217;t count. But isn&#8217;t a chord &#8216;music&#8217;? Or do you really mean &#8216;words and melody&#8217;?<br />
Thanks a lot for reading and writing!<br />
Best wishes,<br />
Tony</p>
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		By: Tony Conniff		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Dec 2017 05:02:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;http://tonyconniff.com/at-what-point-does-it-become-a-co-write/#comment-7331&quot;&gt;Paul Rolnick&lt;/a&gt;.

Paul,
Thanks for reading and writing. In the post I mostly focused on situations where a co-write isn&#039;t planned but a co-writing situation might arise. I agree that, when planning ahead, an even split (when that&#039;s fair) is the best way to get everybody fully and unreservedly  &#039;invested&#039; and contributing.
Best wishes,
Tony]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="http://tonyconniff.com/at-what-point-does-it-become-a-co-write/#comment-7331">Paul Rolnick</a>.</p>
<p>Paul,<br />
Thanks for reading and writing. In the post I mostly focused on situations where a co-write isn&#8217;t planned but a co-writing situation might arise. I agree that, when planning ahead, an even split (when that&#8217;s fair) is the best way to get everybody fully and unreservedly  &#8216;invested&#8217; and contributing.<br />
Best wishes,<br />
Tony</p>
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		By: Michael		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Dec 2017 03:39:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Very interesting essay.  When one submits a copyright form, it asks for who wrote “words and music”.  That’s what I go by.  If someone’s input changes the words or music in a significant way, they are a writer.  If I had suggested a chord change, or a lyrical phrase change, or if I had created the beat / drum / percussion track, I would not expect a writing credit.

The exception would be if the song made a ton of money - then I would demand credit!  :)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very interesting essay.  When one submits a copyright form, it asks for who wrote “words and music”.  That’s what I go by.  If someone’s input changes the words or music in a significant way, they are a writer.  If I had suggested a chord change, or a lyrical phrase change, or if I had created the beat / drum / percussion track, I would not expect a writing credit.</p>
<p>The exception would be if the song made a ton of money &#8211; then I would demand credit!  🙂</p>
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		By: Paul Rolnick		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Nov 2017 15:40:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hey Tony,  

A very thoughtful commentary.  As a fellow producer/engineer/songwriter/session singer, I sometimes find myself in similar situations.  My only suggestion is that you never know what bit of brilliance anyone adds to a song makes the difference and puts that song over the top.  Something that is almost there... is not there.   Consequently, I am a big fan of equal splits on songs.  In the grand scheme of things, I think it is a very fair minded way to approach this.  This is pretty much the standard in Nashville.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Tony,  </p>
<p>A very thoughtful commentary.  As a fellow producer/engineer/songwriter/session singer, I sometimes find myself in similar situations.  My only suggestion is that you never know what bit of brilliance anyone adds to a song makes the difference and puts that song over the top.  Something that is almost there&#8230; is not there.   Consequently, I am a big fan of equal splits on songs.  In the grand scheme of things, I think it is a very fair minded way to approach this.  This is pretty much the standard in Nashville.</p>
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