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		By: Tony Conniff		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyconniff.com/can-you-teach-someone-to-write-a-song/#comment-6781&quot;&gt;Annie Dinerman&lt;/a&gt;.

Annie,
Thanks for the thoughtful and useful additions to the post.
Best wishes,
Tony]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyconniff.com/can-you-teach-someone-to-write-a-song/#comment-6781">Annie Dinerman</a>.</p>
<p>Annie,<br />
Thanks for the thoughtful and useful additions to the post.<br />
Best wishes,<br />
Tony</p>
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		By: Tony Conniff		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyconniff.com/can-you-teach-someone-to-write-a-song/#comment-6783&quot;&gt;Joyce Rogers&lt;/a&gt;.

Great!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyconniff.com/can-you-teach-someone-to-write-a-song/#comment-6783">Joyce Rogers</a>.</p>
<p>Great!</p>
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		By: Joyce Rogers		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Aug 2015 18:06:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyconniff.com/can-you-teach-someone-to-write-a-song/#comment-6782&quot;&gt;Joyce Rogers&lt;/a&gt;.

that was for Annie; but, Tony, you inspired it]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyconniff.com/can-you-teach-someone-to-write-a-song/#comment-6782">Joyce Rogers</a>.</p>
<p>that was for Annie; but, Tony, you inspired it</p>
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		By: Joyce Rogers		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[what a wise post; thanks]]></description>
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		By: Annie Dinerman		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[Tony,

Thanks for this thoughtful post.  I agree 100%.


I once saw a musical based on a classic novel that takes place mainly on a fishing boat.  I had the opportunity to talk with the composer before I saw the show.  He said he had had not done any research on public domain folksongs sung by sailors.  As I watched the show, I felt he had deprived himself; that the traditional songs would have taught him something of the actual lives of sailors and the spirit of the sailor&#039;s life.

I had pored over folksong books as a child.  So, while I was watching the musical, I realized I&#039;d seen an old movie adaption of the same novel.  The movie was underscored with those same sailor songs.  The music added to the movie&#039;s authenticity and tone.  My feeling was that the composer of the stage show didn&#039;t learn enough about the world he was writing about before going to work on the show.

When I am writing in a new genre, I sometimes Spotify tunes in that genre and then make notes.  This is an especially good way to find out about chord progressions in that genre and how the lyric lies on that progression, how the story is developed so the emotions of the lyric go along with the emotions of the music.  In any case, I agree -- our writing will be original if we hold originality as a goal.

Also, if you don&#039;t learn about what people did before you, you&#039;re going to have to make all the mistakes for yourself and that will just eat up your creative time!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tony,</p>
<p>Thanks for this thoughtful post.  I agree 100%.</p>
<p>I once saw a musical based on a classic novel that takes place mainly on a fishing boat.  I had the opportunity to talk with the composer before I saw the show.  He said he had had not done any research on public domain folksongs sung by sailors.  As I watched the show, I felt he had deprived himself; that the traditional songs would have taught him something of the actual lives of sailors and the spirit of the sailor&#8217;s life.</p>
<p>I had pored over folksong books as a child.  So, while I was watching the musical, I realized I&#8217;d seen an old movie adaption of the same novel.  The movie was underscored with those same sailor songs.  The music added to the movie&#8217;s authenticity and tone.  My feeling was that the composer of the stage show didn&#8217;t learn enough about the world he was writing about before going to work on the show.</p>
<p>When I am writing in a new genre, I sometimes Spotify tunes in that genre and then make notes.  This is an especially good way to find out about chord progressions in that genre and how the lyric lies on that progression, how the story is developed so the emotions of the lyric go along with the emotions of the music.  In any case, I agree &#8212; our writing will be original if we hold originality as a goal.</p>
<p>Also, if you don&#8217;t learn about what people did before you, you&#8217;re going to have to make all the mistakes for yourself and that will just eat up your creative time!</p>
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		By: Tony Conniff		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Jul 2015 17:10:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyconniff.com/can-you-teach-someone-to-write-a-song/#comment-6779&quot;&gt;rich meitin&lt;/a&gt;.

Thanks for the words of wisdom, Rich!
TC]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyconniff.com/can-you-teach-someone-to-write-a-song/#comment-6779">rich meitin</a>.</p>
<p>Thanks for the words of wisdom, Rich!<br />
TC</p>
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					<description><![CDATA[I&#039;ve run into students who didn&#039;t want to become &quot;contaminated&quot; by education / songwriting study, too. What they don&#039;t yet understand is that there&#039;s a point BEYOND a writer&#039;s period of education when all that the writer has studied begins to emerge in a way which only THAT writer could have put it together. 

Expecting that to happen without the prior learning is like expecting a field to blossom with flowers, but without ever having seeded, watered or fertilized it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve run into students who didn&#8217;t want to become &#8220;contaminated&#8221; by education / songwriting study, too. What they don&#8217;t yet understand is that there&#8217;s a point BEYOND a writer&#8217;s period of education when all that the writer has studied begins to emerge in a way which only THAT writer could have put it together. </p>
<p>Expecting that to happen without the prior learning is like expecting a field to blossom with flowers, but without ever having seeded, watered or fertilized it.</p>
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